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freekdawg Regular Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2009 Posts: 62 Name: Brian Location: Richmond,Texas
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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well i might have to replace the seal because it has leaked a couple of drops on the floor not a puddle i just need to find out how much the seal is _________________ 2009 Ranger XP 700 Mossy Oak Breakup
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RangerU Starting Member
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 8 Name: Gary Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:02 pm Post subject: Engine code 21 |
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| I'm having the same problem with my 09 Ranger XP. It only runs a short time then loses power sometimes back fires and shuts itself down. Check engine comes on and shows a code 21. Allowed to cool 15 minutes it will run again for less than 1 minute then same problem. Took to dealer who said battery cable was lose. Problem was not fixed and it still will not run. I have less than 5 hours on this vehicle and can't make it run. Dealer doesn't know what to check. By the way, I have never washed it since it has not run long enough to get dirty. |
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carnivore PRC Team Leader

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 26427 Name: Curt Location: Grand Ledge, Michigan
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Tell him he needs to check the crank position sensor, the TPS and the Tbap sensor. _________________ Curt
2012 RZR XP4 900
from Ball Equipment
Roll cage from Racer Tech and
DDP clutch Coming soon
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RangerU Starting Member
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 8 Name: Gary Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I will give him a note to check these items when I drop it off. At this point I'm pretty fed up with the Ranger. I towed it 1500 miles altogether only to have it not run more than 5 minutes. Polaris won't even discuss. I have to go through the dealer who says they don't know what's wrong and it doesn't act up when they test ride the unit. May go back to brand X for dependable ride. |
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carnivore PRC Team Leader

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 26427 Name: Curt Location: Grand Ledge, Michigan
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| RangerU wrote: | | I will give him a note to check these items when I drop it off. At this point I'm pretty fed up with the Ranger. I towed it 1500 miles altogether only to have it not run more than 5 minutes. Polaris won't even discuss. I have to go through the dealer who says they don't know what's wrong and it doesn't act up when they test ride the unit. May go back to brand X for dependable ride. |
The problems you are experiencing are not typical for the Ranger. When you consider we have 10,000 members you don't see very many issues here. It sounds like you need a better dealer. You don't have to take it to the one you bought it from. The Ranger is a great machine, and if you get by these issues you will see how good it is. _________________ Curt
2012 RZR XP4 900
from Ball Equipment
Roll cage from Racer Tech and
DDP clutch Coming soon
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RangerU Starting Member
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 8 Name: Gary Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll keep the faith and see if your suggestion guides them the right direction. I have never bought a new ATV and was excited about the "great" Ranger everyone has talked about only to be totally let down. I will let you know the outcome. |
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freekdawg Regular Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2009 Posts: 62 Name: Brian Location: Richmond,Texas
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:47 am Post subject: update |
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well what i did i disconnected the battery and the ecu and the 21 code i got before i dont get anymore gives me no codes now but still runs alittle sluggish at 15 to 25 mph but i will check the other stuff this weekend the tbap and that other stuff only because my new axles from super atv are comming in on thursday this week
btw this past weekend i rode for about 15 minutes with friends and my odometer started flashing and telling me its hot went back to the house and blew the radiator out and it stopped for the rest of the night till about 4 am in the morning but as i was saying it still runs sluggish at 15 to 25 mph like no power could it be cloged fuel injectors maybe or air in the radiator _________________ 2009 Ranger XP 700 Mossy Oak Breakup
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carnivore PRC Team Leader

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 26427 Name: Curt Location: Grand Ledge, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Its not uncommon to get air pockets in the engine, sometimes you have to elevate the front of the machine to get the air out. Its possible but not likely that the injectors are clogged. _________________ Curt
2012 RZR XP4 900
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Roll cage from Racer Tech and
DDP clutch Coming soon
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RangerU Starting Member
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 8 Name: Gary Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:51 pm Post subject: Crank position sensor |
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| Carnivore, you were the first to mention the crank position sensor. Dealer now says they narrowed my problem down to this sensor after giving me greif about suggestioning they check it. Said they already had and they know what they are doing. They have to get approval to change because "Polaris doesn't like them throwing parts at problems". Dealer also says I'm wrong about code 21. They say has nothing to do with synchronization. Just means engine has died. Don't need a code to tell me that. Question is if this is crank position sensor why does it run okay for 10 minutes then start acting up when warm or hot. Also why would it reset and consistantly act up after 30 to 45 seconds. I want to know my problem is fixed since warranty ends in October and "Polaris has no sympathy for people who don't buy their extended warranty". |
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RZR Rich PRC/SSW Moderator

Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Posts: 6689 Name: Rich Location: Michigan
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Gary, I've never experienced a bad crank position sensor on a Polaris - but I have experienced a bad cam position sensor on a Diesel and the symptoms are the same, start acting up-quit running-let it sit awhile and it starts right back up-act up again-quit running-etc, replaced the sensor and the problem disappeared. I realise this is from the automotive field but the symptoms sure sound familiar. From what I understand, replacement of the crank position sensor is fairly easy on these machines. _________________ Rich
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RangerU Starting Member
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 8 Name: Gary Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Somewhat puzzling to me that they need permission to change this part. I hear it is simple and inexpensive. Thanks for the reply. I'll let you know the outcome. |
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carnivore PRC Team Leader

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 26427 Name: Curt Location: Grand Ledge, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly this is a somewhat new symptom that has been apearing recently, so we are still trying to figure out the symptoms and why its doing it, but when it comes to electronics I'm not surprised by anything anymore.
Polaris always makes them get approval before replacing parts. _________________ Curt
2012 RZR XP4 900
from Ball Equipment
Roll cage from Racer Tech and
DDP clutch Coming soon
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RangerU Starting Member
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 8 Name: Gary Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Finally got my ranger back last night. They changed all of the sensors with no success. Last resort they put a new wiring harness on and the problem has gone away for now. I spent over an hour last night riding between roads, trails and fields to see if anything would fail but so far so good. I plan to ride a lot between now and opening weekend of bow season. I don't want to drag another deer out of the woods. Hopefully I am problem free and can start enjoying my ranger. Thanks to all who responded. |
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carnivore PRC Team Leader

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 26427 Name: Curt Location: Grand Ledge, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'm glad to hear its fixed. Sounds like you had a broken wire somewhere. _________________ Curt
2012 RZR XP4 900
from Ball Equipment
Roll cage from Racer Tech and
DDP clutch Coming soon
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