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When I bought my 2014 last year the dealer mentioned something about bringing the machine in for the first oil change and valve adjustment and general lookover and wanted $500 for this service , I changed the oil myself , question - how hard of a job is it to adjust the valves ? Is it really necessary ? , I'm a old fart and drive easy, I have about 300 miles on it now . I find it hard to believe it would cost so much to adj the valves ? What are other dealers charging for this ?
 

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It is a shim under bucket setup like a dohc motorcycle. First you measure the clearance an all the valves, then if any are out of spec you pull the camshaft(s) up and lift off the follower bucket and lift out the shim and measure it, then from that measurement you figure the shim thickness it will take to bring it back in specification, then install the shim and bucket and camshaft(s) and check the clearance to make sure it is ok.
If you have done it once it is not that big a deal the second time but it is somewhat time consuming. But is lots easier than doing it on a motorcycle because of all the extra stuff you have to take off on them.

And yes, that is a lot of money for an oil change and valve adjustment, even on a dohc. Doing a Ranger would be fairly quick for an experienced mechanic since the top of the engine is in the open when you raise the bed. But it takes lots longer to do a 570 than a 500, which can be done in 30 minutes easy with time left over to have a beer or two.
 

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Something to keep in mind with valve adjustments on these engines...the 500hr mark should simply be for inspection purposes to safe guard against premature damage to the motor. You should not expect having to adjust for valve clearance every 500 hours. If you ARE having to adjust valve lash every 500 hours something is wrong! This commonly indicates that the valve seat is wearing prematurely, causing the valve to sink further into the head or the camshaft lobe(s) are wearing quicker than they should. If either one of these conditions are occurring you WILL need to replace the effected part.
 

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If your dealer wants to charge you $500 for the first oil change and a valve adjustment, you have a defective dealer. Change your own oil AND change your own dealer!


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If your dealer wants to charge you $500 for the first oil change and a valve adjustment, you have a defective dealer. Change your own oil AND change your own dealer!
I agree. It may have been an "honest" mistake, but it also indicates he is not very knowledgeable about these machines. Hopefully it was a sales guy that told you this and not a mechanic.
 

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I agree. It may have been an "honest" mistake, but it also indicates he is not very knowledgeable about these machines. Hopefully it was a sales guy that told you this and not a mechanic.
Actually Jerry $500.00 is a reasonable price for the Initial Inspection although they're supposed to do a little more than just oil and valves...Replace Engine Case Oil, Replace Front and Rear Diff Oils (& Transmission Oil if separate), Inspect Cooling System, Test Battery, Inspect CVT Clutches and Belt, Inspect/Adjust Valves, Clean/Replace Spark Plug(s), Clean Air Filter, Check/Tighten all Chassis and Suspension Fasteners, Check/Tighten all Exhaust Fasteners, Check Steering Geometry, Check Tires and Tire Air Pressure, and Check/Tighten Lug Nuts. I may have left something out but I'm sure you get the idea. Depending on the unit, an Initial Inspection can take upwards of 3 hours of shop time, not including replacement parts/fluids. Average shop time costs is between $85.00 and $130.00 an hour and we all know those Polaris-spec fluids aren't cheap and don't forget to figure in taxes and disposal fees! Yeah...they'll getcha comin' and getcha goin'...
 

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The Steelers are not getting me! I do my own and for others too. We are not paying $500 for lip service of what they say are they are going to do when often all they do is check off a list saying they did it. Hear stories like this all the time. Recently a story from a neighbor who took his Mom's car into a Pep Boy's for a complete service. That included changing out the Air Cleaner Filter. Later a check engine light came on and the first thing he did was check the engine air filter which had never been changed. $500 for service job on a Ranger is outlandish! It doesn't take me an hour to do mine on either my old 700 or my 900. Learn to do it yourself and save some big bucks :)
 

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Actually Jerry $500.00 is a reasonable price.......
If it actually included a valve adjustment, then I would agree. But since the valve lash isn't supposed to be checked until 500 hours, then I think $500 is way to high for the initial inspection. My dealer charges about half that, but I still do mine myself. Fluids and filter cost me about $60......and doing it myself, I know it's done correctly.
 

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Actually Jerry $500.00 is a reasonable price.......
All they do at the initial inspection is change the oil and check the fluids and air filter etc. Nothing heavy duty and should take less than an hour. This comes from the owners manual.

Valve check is at 500 hours.

The other stuff you mentioned should have been checked at pre delivery. But most of the time it isn't.
 

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The dealers are supposed to at least inspect the valve clearance upon Initial Inspection, after the break in period. This is in their documentation straight from Polaris and can be very important in the event that the valve seats fail prematurely. The reason I say that $500.00 is a reasonable price (IF the dealer is actually doing everything on their checklists and not simply saying that they did) is because some dealers around my area will charge in excess of $800.00 on similar units to do this very procedure...or say that they did! lol
 

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The dealers are supposed to at least inspect the valve clearance upon Initial Inspection, after the break in period.
You wouldn't happen to have a copy of that documentation that pertains to the 570 would you. I am not from Missouri but I would like to see it.

If the valve seats fail prematurely all that will happen is that the engine won't start because of low compression.
 

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It's surprising that Polaris would ask the dealer to tear into a practically brand new engine.
Polaris (like most manufacturers who don't want to shell out unnecessary money for warranty repairs) would rather a certified tech go in and inspect everything rather than leave it up to chance that all will be fine until the warranty runs out. Something else you'll notice is that if you DO have the Initial Inspection handled by a dealer or certified technician (certification would need to be through the manufacturer, NOT simply a small engines certification like what I have) you'll likely find that the manufacturer is more willing to work with you on warranty repairs (ex. warranty ran out a month ago but you need something repaired, in the case above, they would likely cover it).
 

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Why does the Owners manual list all the little things that need to be inspected at the first maintenance period but not list valve check or adjustment until 500 hours? Does this mean that if you take it in to the dealer it is important that the valves be checked but if it is done by the owner it is not important for them to be checked?

The first valve check on my DOHC motorcycle was at 7500 miles. The first valve check on my Cummins is at 150,000 miles.
 

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Its crap. Dealer trying to rip you off.
if your vavle lash changes that much in 500
hrs you have other issues. Toyota and honda
has been using this puck clearance for 20 yrs.
change oil and dont overheat it. It will last a long
time. Dont panic because the dealer told you
bad info.
Just another .02.
 

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Thanks for the replies , looks like I'll save my money till the 500 hr mark comes around , another thought is $500 is a lot of money to change oil and " checkout " a $9000 machine , imagine if a truck dealer wanted $2000 to change oil and "check out " your $40,000 truck ?
The salesman I bought it from even joked to me that his boss { the owner } has the knickname " Mr. Goldwrench " for his exhoribitant shop rates - :shame:
 
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