The winch I wanted was the winch a skidder uses to haul a twitch of logs....but the weight alone was 3000 lbs...So I got the standard #4500 lb one. First one I've ever owned with 'rope'....I certainly hope its as tuff as steel cable, not just something the Chinese's are selling us Americans that doesn't work. I'm not going to look to get stuck. But if you ride alone sometimes,,,you want to make sure your prepared.