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Lift vs ev springs

7.6K views 21 replies 4 participants last post by  confederatecanadian  
#1 ·
Searched and really couldn't find answers on this. Im going back and forth between either the ev springs all the way around or the Marshall motoart 2.5 kit. What's your opinion on the two. Is one better then the other. And which will get me the most ground clearance. Eventually my plan is to run forward arched arms with one of these once somebody starts producing them. I've got a 2015 570 midsize. Thanks
 
#2 ·
If you're looking to be spent that much on a lift, go with ev springs and call it a day

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#3 ·
So here's the problem...I've gone both ways and am still not 100% satisfied. The Marshall MotoArt 2.5" Lift Kit will certainly lift the vehicle but if your factory coil springs start to sag (and they will) you'll likely end up right back where you started (as if you never installed a lift at all). The EV springs WITH the 2.5" Lift Kit is great...for a while but I've found that even the EV springs are beginning to sag on my Ranger. SO, a question you may need to ask yourself is...just how important is ride quality and how important is ground clearance because you'll likely have to give a little on one for the other. My current setup includes: Front: SuperATV-style lift kit with EV springs / Rear: OEM front shocks and springs from a 2014 Polaris Ranger XP900. The rear of my machine continually measures true (w/ 29" tall tires) at 16" of ground clearance but the front of my machine has gradually lost clearance (originally measuring a true 16", now measures a true 15"). Within a matter of months the EV springs have already sagged a full inch! My next venture will be to replace the EV springs with High Lifter Overload Springs which are substantially stronger than all of Polaris' OEM springs and will hold up a lot longer.
 
#4 ·
Sippmsh, the ride doesn't bother me at all. I bought a ranger for use at the deer lease and occasional trail riding. I didn't buy a Cadillac lol so the ride doesn't really matter that much to me like it would to others. So from what you're saying is ,y best bet would probably be to go with high lifters springs along with a 2 inch lift. I don't necessarily have to go with the Marshall motoart kit. That just seems to be the one most guys recommend. I would be fine with either the superatv or the highlighter lift as well. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think my best bet would be to go with highlighter springs all the way around with one of those 3 lifts? And then once someone starts producing the forward arms for the 2015 I will go with those as well. My plan is to run 30s once all this is done. My only concern will be that if I go with the highlifter spring and a lift and forward arms. Will I see issues with axles pulling out? Thanks for the help once again. I just need a little help with the correct path I should take
 
#5 ·
I think one of the reasons why my OEM axles haven't given me any trouble with the amount of lift I have is because of the surface rust that has likely accumulated on the inner CV splines. It took an overnight bath in PB Blaster to get my front, driver-side axle out after the outer CV joint blew (before using PB Blaster I couldn't get the axle out of the differential even after hooking it up to my truck!). Anyways, as stated, without the rust it's likely that my inner CV joints would have popped out of the differential by now. My front driver axle was just replaced with a High Lifter Outlaw DHT axle, my front passenger axle is still OEM...for now. What I'm getting at here is that if all you're looking to accomplish is to eventually be able to clear a set of 30s, I'd stick with a 2"-2.5" Lift Kit, a set of Forward A-Arms, and leave the coil springs alone. At this point you'll already be right at the edge of what the OEM axles can handle; going any further may mean purchasing replacement axles... Not to mention that the lift and arms should be enough to clear a most 30" tall tires and if the springs start to sag a little, I wouldn't worry about them until the tires start to rub and then just fab you up some springs spacers.
 
#6 · (Edited)
I think that's the route I will go then. Just forward arms and a lift with 30s. The only problem I have is that the stock springs are already sagging and I've had my ranger for a little over a month. I have not adjusted them up any from the lowest setting. The thing that makes me mad is I've only had weight in the bed once. It was about 400 pounds of corn for about 30 minutes and after that I lost a good inch and a half of ground clearance in the rear. So would I be better off lifting the front and then doing just for after market springs in the rear to bring me back up to where I need to be? Also what lift out of those 3 would you recommend.
 
#7 ·
You may want to tighten your rear shocks up to the highest setting first, install the lift kit, and then see if it's where you want it to sit all while keeping in mind that you won't be able to clear 30s until you get the forward a-arms. With regards, specifically to the lift kits...I'm kind of split amongst them. I like a kit that doesn't hinder ride quality so the High Lifter and SuperATV lift kits would be my preference but both of these manufacturers utilize coil spring spacers for the rear suspension and I don't like that...this is where I prefer the Marshall MotoArt kit because it is a bracket lift that does not promote a change in the coil spring compression ratio. So...with all that said...I'd prefer the SuperATV Front Lift Kit for its ability to maintain ride comfort along with the ease of install, and the Marshall MotorArt Rear Bracket Lift Kit for the same reasons.
 
#8 ·
You answered everything I needed to know and I think I'm heading in the right direction now. I do agree with you on the rear lift utilizing the bracket and not the spacer. With that being said can I purchase just the front from say highlifter and then just the rear from mma? I only ask because I have never seen then sold separately. Is am I going to have to get lucky in the classified section to score the front and rear separately
And again thanks for the help
 
#9 ·
Unfortunately I can not speak on the High Lifter kit but I know with absolute certainty that the fellows over at Marshall MotoArt WILL sell their Lift Kit in parts (I believe they charge approximately $100 for the rear brackets and fasteners for them). As far as the front suspension...I'm running SuperATV-"like" (emphasis on the word "like") Lift Kit which can be purchased on eBay for around $30.
 
#12 ·
Sippmsh, one more question. trying to get a parts list together and have come across a bunch of guys having real bad camber issues by using the forward arms with a lift. I'm not wanting to have any camber problems. So if I go with forward arms and the highlifter springs. Would that possibly give me the room for 30 inch zillas. Or is the lift a must and I will just have to deal with the camber. Can't find any info regarding the highlifter springs compared to the ev spring
 
#15 ·
There's a key to correcting the potential camber issues...either (1) purchase forward a-arms with adjustable heim joints or (2) spend good money and buy a set of High Lifter A-Arms. Almost guaranteed to be more expensive than the rest but also guaranteed to fit properly! Trust me...I learned the hard way!
 
#13 ·
You should be able to barely clear 30"s with just springs and forward a arms while retaining a decent camber angle
 
#14 ·
I saw your post yesterday in replacing Oem sprigs with ev sprigs. Looks good. I think that's the way to go. Do you have any issues with rubbing. The fronts do look awful close. I'm planning on running a 30x9x14 Zilla up front. How true are your 30 inch mudlites? Or do they run about an inch short like the Zilla. Thanks
 
#22 ·
My Mud Lite xxl sizes mounted on my ranger are as follows front 30x10x12 @ 10 psi are 29.25" tall
Rears 30x12x12 @ 15 psi are 30" exactly

My clearance in the front is about the same as when I was running 27" zillas without forward a arms