Just not enough torque for UTV as far as I am concerned. Single cylinders just don't have it.
Mid-size 570 Crew bogging down
I'm about to take delivery of my 2014 Crew 570 but read a review yesterday that when it's loaded (4 people), it really bogs down. My question to those of you that have one of these is can that be overcome by just putting it in low? Also, how fast does a crew 570 go in low?
Another guy said it takes a lot of room to turn it around. I would guess that is the issue with any crew cab.
Finally, does anybody regret buying the mid-size 570 over the full size or the 900?
Thanks for the feed back.
Another guy said it takes a lot of room to turn it around. I would guess that is the issue with any crew cab.
Finally, does anybody regret buying the mid-size 570 over the full size or the 900?
Thanks for the feed back.
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If you find it boggy after you drive it and have it loaded it up with people/cargo you could always put a clutch kit in it. That will help give you a mechanical advantage over the extra weight AND give you a nice performance bump when its just you out there cruising in your new crew ranger!!!!
The 570 is no slouch either, I think you'll be happy with it. Iit just doesn't have the low end torque the discontinued 800 had and neither one are comparable to the 900. When you load it up with people/cargo that is when the 570 starts to show its size. My father test drove the 570 midsize and 800 midsize back to back and even though performance was about the same he wrote a check for the 14' 800 LE midsize.
The 570 is no slouch either, I think you'll be happy with it. Iit just doesn't have the low end torque the discontinued 800 had and neither one are comparable to the 900. When you load it up with people/cargo that is when the 570 starts to show its size. My father test drove the 570 midsize and 800 midsize back to back and even though performance was about the same he wrote a check for the 14' 800 LE midsize.
Do a little research before you go throwing comparisons around about the 800 and 570. The 570 is only 2hp shy, that's not enough to even feel. Not enough torque? That's why the the 570s will spin 34" tires bone stock? You guys are a hoot
My '13 800 midsize had 50 hp.. My '15 570 midsize had 44 hp..
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Horsepower doesn't matter, torque does. Garuntee that the twin 800 makes a good amount more low end useable torque than the one lunger 570.
And that's where the lower gear ratio comes into play on the 570. It's geared substantially lower.
After riding in 570 crew with 4 adults ( 260, 280, 215, 170) I was convinced the 570 is enough for me.I bought a 2 seater but that ride told me all I needed to know.
Well, if it had enough to pull that weight around decently, it will likely be plenty for me. Thanks for that feedback.After riding in 570 crew with 4 adults ( 260, 280, 215, 170) I was convinced the 570 is enough for me.I bought a 2 seater but that ride told me all I needed to know.
And that's where the lower gear ratio comes into play on the 570. It's geared substantially lower.
That makes total sense. I'm not planning on racing this thing, I just need to plow snow up and down hill, carry firewood and people.
I have owned both a 2014 (40 hp) and 2015 (44 hp) and satisfied with performance. I do notice a difference four grown-ups in the unit vs. myself, but I expect to feel it and would say it's more in the handling vs. power performance. I may or may not purchase a 900 crew next time, but more likely to go back to a 570 because it really does everything very well in a small package.
Exactly my point it NEEDS the GR because it's a bit short on low end torque for a big machine like the Ranger. However, with the DOHC engine setup it can also rev a lot higher so it can get away with the GR. You not going to rev an 800 with hydraulic lifters like you will a 570!!! And that's where the 570 gets away with it.And that's where the lower gear ratio comes into play on the 570. It's geared substantially lower.
Also The 800 doesn't need to REV because it HAS ample low end torque.
Doesn't matter anyways the 570 can more than hold its own, in most instances you will loose traction before you come up short on power, agree? It is an impressive little engine for what it is, just isn't the powerhouse (obliviously) that the big bore twins are, but also doesn't carry the price tag that goes with those machines.
I own a 2014 570 crew and am very impressed with its power. I would not say it "boggs" down with 4 people, it may feel like it is working more because it is with all of that weight. Low range is awesome and has tons of power, I use it for most of my riding as it is fine up to 20mph or so. Like any crew it takes some room to turn around but that is what reverse is for. Mine will run right up to the rev limiter with no problem with 2 adults and 2 kids, and I am sure it would do the same with 4 average adults. I can't imagine "needing" more power than the 570, the only reason I would consider a 900 is the power is different and the exhaust note is lower which makes it seem quieter. I probably would have got the 900 if the size of the machine didn't matter but for me I need to take mine down trails that are barely big enough for the midsize so the 900 was not an option. I think most of you questions would be answered with a test ride of a few different machines.
Thanks, that is very helpful. So, since you've owned both 2014 and 2015 with the 4hp difference is it worth the extra $1400 in price for the 2015?I have owned both a 2014 (40 hp) and 2015 (44 hp) and satisfied with performance. I do notice a difference four grown-ups in the unit vs. myself, but I expect to feel it and would say it's more in the handling vs. power performance. I may or may not purchase a 900 crew next time, but more likely to go back to a 570 because it really does everything very well in a small package.
Hey that is very helpful. I too have trails to ride that would not handle the full size which is why I was wanting the mid-size. The problem is the dealer closest to me didn't have any mid-size crews. They did have a midsize regular cab and a full size 570 crew. Your insight helps a lot. Thanks again.I own a 2014 570 crew and am very impressed with its power. I would not say it "boggs" down with 4 people, it may feel like it is working more because it is with all of that weight. Low range is awesome and has tons of power, I use it for most of my riding as it is fine up to 20mph or so. Like any crew it takes some room to turn around but that is what reverse is for. Mine will run right up to the rev limiter with no problem with 2 adults and 2 kids, and I am sure it would do the same with 4 average adults. I can't imagine "needing" more power than the 570, the only reason I would consider a 900 is the power is different and the exhaust note is lower which makes it seem quieter. I probably would have got the 900 if the size of the machine didn't matter but for me I need to take mine down trails that are barely big enough for the midsize so the 900 was not an option. I think most of you questions would be answered with a test ride of a few different machines.
I have yet to really get my '15 crew into the muck but as far as its manners just trail riding I can't imagine it bogging down. And I've had some heavyweights in mine. (270, 200, 190, and 375 all at one time.)
I would be more concerned if we had a LOT of complains of low power from the guys with the 500 crew! But, outside of a couple guys that could have a full blown V8 and not have enough power, the 500 seemed to do the job and believe me, there is no comparison between the old 500s and the present 570!
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Yeah I mean hell, before my older brother sold his 500 crew, he would have 4 adults, and 4 kids on the bed, cooler, and cruise the local river all day on powder sand and not have problems. No it wasn't a speed demon but it would cruise all day
That's another thing that impresses me about my new 570 Ranger - I ran 16 miles of trails in mostly low range the other day and only used 1 bar of fuel! My Brute Force 650 (v twin - 42hp) would've been down a half tank. I didn't hold back on the Ranger either - it played hard in the mud that day.
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