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went riding yesterday, was couple atv's and 4 sxs's....I was the lead. I was goin down a trail that I went down before, heck even a kid on a 250 went down the trail; however this time was going to be different. The trail was in an ATV park across street from my house and im in there every weekend. As we are going down the trail the deepest the water ever got was about top of my tires 26"s. As I begn to go thru another "puddle" i began to ease in and then the "water puddle" decided it wanted more of my new toy. My entire front end drops, like off a cliff, water was up to the stering wheel and covering the back seats. I turned her off and got out so I could help the wife and kids get out from the back seat. We quickly began to pull her out, however the 'water puddle" had a tree root preventing my toy from escaping. After breaking tree limbs and making a ramp between rear tires and tree root and about 5 of us pushing my toy escaaped the grasps of the "puddle". After checking the breather and everything else and noticed water didn't get deep enough I started her up. She started right up, as I began to turn her around she shut off. Lift the back seat and began checking fuses, since water was in there and the fuses are dry. Eventually we tow her back to the house and push her up n a trailer. Now she is spending the night and most likely the rest of the week at the dealer.

I took a long limb and stuck it in the "puddle" and it was over my waist in depth and was going deeper.

Sprayed ether and she started up but then would shut off, seemed like the fuel injection since fuel pump was coming on....so who knows... She is not even 2 months old and only has 26 hrs on her,hopefully its under warranty
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under warranty because you went deep good luck T&S
yeah that's not good
Did you check the oil levels??? If they find water they won't warranty it.
yea oil looked fine even checked gas...neither looked to have water
went riding yesterday, was couple atv's and 4 sxs's....I was the lead. I was goin down a trail that I went down before, heck even a kid on a 250 went down the trail; however this time was going to be different. The trail was in an ATV park across street from my house and im in there every weekend. As we are going down the trail the deepest the water ever got was about top of my tires 26"s. As I begn to go thru another "puddle" i began to ease in and then the "water puddle" decided it wanted more of my new toy. My entire front end drops, like off a cliff, water was up to the stering wheel and covering the back seats. I turned her off and got out so I could help the wife and kids get out from the back seat. We quickly began to pull her out, however the 'water puddle" had a tree root preventing my toy from escaping. After breaking tree limbs and making a ramp between rear tires and tree root and about 5 of us pushing my toy escaaped the grasps of the "puddle". After checking the breather and everything else and noticed water didn't get deep enough I started her up. She started right up, as I began to turn her around she shut off. Lift the back seat and began checking fuses, since water was in there and the fuses are dry. Eventually we tow her back to the house and push her up n a trailer. Now she is spending the night and most likely the rest of the week at the dealer.

I took a long limb and stuck it in the "puddle" and it was over my waist in depth and was going deeper.

Sprayed ether and she started up but then would shut off, seemed like the fuel injection since fuel pump was coming on....so who knows... She is not even 2 months old and only has 26 hrs on her,hopefully its under warranty
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Water in gas tank from the cap or the vent tube probably.
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I agree. This happening to me with vent tube on an accident
Yes vent tube will invest the water and grit then stop up the fuel pump
wheres the vent tube... and can this be fixed on the fly or does it have to go to dealer....in case it happens again
If not water in air box or on in oils, I'd pull plugs and turn over to see if water on top of piston. Also.like everyone said water had to get in vent line on fuel tank.
Vent tub goes from gas tank into the tubing in frame. Sucky design, if water in fuel pump, need to get it out.
wheres the vent tube... and can this be fixed on the fly or does it have to go to dealer....in case it happens again
Lift the drivers seat, and remove storage tray to expose the fuel tank. You will see a 5/16 clear tube going from the fuel pump to the seat base frame, that is your vent line for the fuel tank. It is just pushed inside the seat base frame.

It's one of the first mods that needs to be done.
You have the fuel tank, front differential and the transmission, all three need the vent lines extended or bellows put on, to keep from ingesting water. Most people run them up inside the cab area. Some put filters (lawnmower fuel filters) on or loop them and make sure the ends are pointed downward, so as not to get water in them when washing the unit.
i doubt warranty will cover, however hopefully you insured it. Most policies would cover your damage, depending on the policy it could be covered under comprehensive or collision.
Personally, I would not take this to the dealer until all else failed, because you are very likely not going to like the outcome of that visit. I would do as recommended above, especially remove the plug and turn over the unit plus air blow out everything including the air box, then install a new plug. I would drain the oil and gasoline out and inspect them closely for signs of water before trying to start.
Personally, I would not take this to the dealer until all else failed, because you are very likely not going to like the outcome of that visit. I would do as recommended above, especially remove the plug and turn over the unit plus air blow out everything including the air box, then install a new plug. I would drain the oil and gasoline out and inspect them closely for signs of water before trying to start.
+1 agree,

OP keep us posted.
I agree. You have water in your fuel tank......and I wouldn't take it to the dealer expecting warranty coverage.
Lift the drivers seat, and remove storage tray to expose the fuel tank. You will see a 5/16 clear tube going from the fuel pump to the seat base frame, that is your vent line for the fuel tank. It is just pushed inside the seat base frame.

It's one of the first mods that needs to be done.
You have the fuel tank, front differential and the transmission, all three need the vent lines extended or bellows put on, to keep from ingesting water. Most people run them up inside the cab area. Some put filters (lawnmower fuel filters) on or loop them and make sure the ends are pointed downward, so as not to get water in them when washing the unit.
Greg, I've been seeing this suggested often and thank you for doing so again. I just printed it off on paper as a reminder to follow through. I am not familiar with "bellows" and how it would function differently from a lawnmower fuel filter. Which would be more effective?
......Which would be more effective?
I'd have to consider the bellows to be more effective because they essentially make it a sealed system and there's NO WAY water or dust can get into them unless the bellow gets torn or the vent line gets cut.

With that being said, the small lawnmower type filters work just fine and that's what I've used on both of my machines with good results.

A while back there was another thread on here with a few debating about whether extending vent lines and bellows or filters were necessary (I think Toxic might have been involved in that discussion as well). This is a prime example of WHY YOU SHOULD extend your vent lines and add some sort or filter or bellow. I've heard guys say "I'm not a mudder and will NEVER have my machine deep enough to need that".......well, it doesn't sound like this guy intended too either. Just sayin', STUFF happens.
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Now I know what a bellows is and how it works. Forde posted it here: http://www.prcforum.com/forum/108-mid-size-rangers/58521-crank-case-vent-hose-dripping-oil-3.html
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