[BAWB]

My gramps and I were out on the first weekend ride with the ranger, what an awesome machine!! Gramps and my bro were taking a cruise- it was my brothers first time riding a SxS so he was getting used to the ride. Cruising at Id say 30 mph up a very slight grade the belt just let go shredding into 1000's of pieces most of the big ones got lodged in the vent tube. Pushed it back to camp and took a look at things sure enough the belt was delaminated from the cords. Found a local dealer who was willing to replace the belt for free IF WE HAD BROUGHT IT TO HIM!!!![!] He didnt tell me that on the phone though [V]

I have pics to come later tonight. So I doubt the misalignment of the motor mount is the issue at hand here. (will double check tonight for sure though)

Other then the broken belt there was NOTHING that stopped this thing, alot of good times were had and stories to be told. Only put in 35 miles and 3 hours riding on the ranger, put on over 125 miles with my quad []

 

[fiberguy]

Check the front motor mount, bet it's toast.

 

[BAWB]

I had done a visual inspection and there are no signs of a broken mount like cracked paint/ rusted welds and joints, or a smashed/ worn out rubber isolator bushing. I took a long extension and pried the motor up with about 75 lbs of force and couldnt see any unnatural movement.
What kind of tolerance should I be looking for- is more then .5" movement a problem or would it be more like an inch of slop up or down be more realistic since the squish of the rubber isolator should be at least .25-.5" by itself..??

 

[alnash]

Heres a link so you can view a broken mounthttp://www.prcforum.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=278

 

[fiberguy]

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I had done a visual inspection and there are no signs of a broken mount like cracked paint/ rusted welds and joints, or a smashed/ worn out rubber isolator bushing. I took a long extension and pried the motor up with about 75 lbs of force and couldnt see any unnatural movement.
What kind of tolerance should I be looking for- is more then .5" movement a problem or would it be more like an inch of slop up or down be more realistic since the squish of the rubber isolator should be at least .25-.5" by itself..??
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Josh,
The next thing I would try is taking the cover off of the clutches and maybe see what going on when you give it gas. Some here have been 100's of hours with the same belt, just dosent make sense.

 

[BAWB]

Chalk up belt #2 in less then 20 HOURS!!!! If the dealer doesnt fix this and fix it right they are going to have a gently used ranger setting in their parking lot to get rid of!!!!!!

This is getting out of hand, cruising along at about 35-40 mph and boom belt #2 just vaporizes, ive gotta handfull of shards and my wallet is $160 lighter from the two belts in two weeks!!!!!

Checked the motor mount and it seems fine, it lets the motor move up and down about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch, the clutch and pulleys seem to be lined up, so what gives why is this thing eating belts!!!

 

[fiberguy]

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Chalk up belt #2 in less then 20 HOURS!!!! If the dealer doesnt fix this and fix it right they are going to have a gently used ranger setting in their parking lot to get rid of!!!!!!

This is getting out of hand, cruising along at about 35-40 mph and boom belt #2 just vaporizes, ive gotta handfull of shards and my wallet is $160 lighter from the two belts in two weeks!!!!!

Checked the motor mount and it seems fine, it lets the motor move up and down about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch, the clutch and pulleys seem to be lined up, so what gives why is this thing eating belts!!!
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Josh,
Take the cover off the clutches and the seat cover also, stand on the brake and give it gas, let us know what happens. Also tell us how you checking the front mount, are you using a prybar? 3/4 of an inch seems like to much movement. The clutches can't be visually checked, it has to be done with a guage.
There are lots of us here with 200+ hours on a stock belt and no problems, what ever it is it is not normal.

 

[prose]

Guys,
I'm just new to the site,excellent info here..........Anyway I have a 07 700xp & just destroyed the belt @ 30 mph +-..........There is approx. 650 miles & 84hrs. on her.......it's at the dealer now & I will give a report as to why it went asap..........cheers....

 

[BeeFarmer]

Look forward to hearing...

 

[freddy]

BAWB,

The mount is most likely the problem. You cannot tell by looking at it, you have to put a load on it. You can do this by 2 methods. One is to put a new belt on it, put your foot on the brake and gas the throttle. The motor should not move. If it does it is a bad mount.

The second way is to pry on the bottom of the motor in a careful spot and see if the motor moves. Bottom line is the motor should not move.

Polaris has shipped out a new mount with a different part #, which will elimate the problem. Get with your dealer and have him fix ya up.

freddy

 

[prose]

Just picked up the 700xp @ the dealer & the tech said everything in the clutches were ok- Alignment etc...........Also asked about the motor mounts,he said they checked out ok..........also asked about any bulletins on the motor mounts,they went on the computer in front of me & it came up with none.........The tech said it was probably a defective belt,guess we will see............So if any of you guys know of a bulletin concerning the motor mounts,please let us know.............cheers.........
Pete Rose
Nova Scotia,Canada[]

 

[fiberguy]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by prose

Just picked up the 700xp @ the dealer & the tech said everything in the clutches were ok- Alignment etc...........Also asked about the motor mounts,he said they checked out ok..........also asked about any bulletins on the motor mounts,they went on the computer in front of me & it came up with none.........The tech said it was probably a defective belt,guess we will see............So if any of you guys know of a bulletin concerning the motor mounts,please let us know.............cheers.........
Pete Rose
Nova Scotia,Canada[]

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Guys this is what I would be making, I really wouldn't care what anyone said, make this and your problems should be over. JMO
http://www.prcforum.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=519

 

[gordo]

Anyone want to make a wager that this next belt won't go ka-BOOM. Till that mount gets replaced it almost a sure thing unless the belts have been laying around in someones attic for the last 20 years.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Any dealer that let's you leave with out an explanation the first time is suspect in my mind. The second time and I'm calling BS. They just think your time is less importaint than there time is and are going to let you find the problem for them.
Sorry for your problems, but you may have to be real "assertive" the next time you take back, and you probably will have a next time.

 

[BajaDrifter]

Polaris will not offically admit fault of any kind concerning the motor mount/belt issue. I think several here on the PRC who are close with Polaris staff are suggesting that it was a bad batch of motor mounts. And it might be the case, but we will never know for sure. I urge anyone who has a failure to file a complaint with the CPSC - http://www.cpsc.gov/ as they have been instrumental in several Polaris recalls. I think Polaris is trying to avoid the recall and the associated expense if they can. This problem has grown way beyond a minor defect and is a safety issue. Good luck.

 

[BAWB]

OK an update for you guys. Stealeship is trying to tell me polaris had a bad run of belts some were out of tolerance blah blah. Which doesnt make sense why it blew the stock belt AND the "new" style belt just about as many hours.

They checked everything in the ranger and couldnt find anything wrong with it. AFTER 2 WEEKS IN THE DEALER[!] They finally let me know saturday that they have ordered a new belt and a new front motor mount!!! Hmmm seems like there WAS something wrong with the mount they just wouldnt admit it to ME!!!! So in my eyes polaris owesd me for 2 drive belts and for my time and agony loading this thing up, driving it over 3 hours to and from the dealer and for 2 hours labor changing 2 belts while i SHOULD BE ENJOYING MYSELF.
Its ok let it eat 2 more belts I'll take the turd back to them, tell them I gotta lemon they will HAVE TO GIVE ME A GOOD ONE THEN!!!

I did contact polaris, cspc and let me dealer know about my situation and my feelings so hopefully something good will come from this bad bad nightmare.

I do have to add that I had every bit of faith in the world that these rangers were top of the heap. Now I have a whole different opinion after the new car scent has worn off. I will never buy or trust another polaris product again!!!! I thought they got over their product development with that abortion of a quad the scrambler they should have this stuff figured out by now one would think. But like every other auto and atv maker in the U.S. they use the consumer as R&D that is just wrong!!!

 

[BAWB]

OK hope the new motor mount and belt do the trick.

Im kind of confused about the work order, what parts DID they replace? It looks like the rubber isolator and a new belt. Is the rubber isolator the problem because I thought it was the steel one.??.

Suposedly the replacement belts I bought were part of a bad run-ok im fine with that but doesnt give me any explanation why it broke the 1st oem belt.

Havent got to ride it yet but will definetly check it out VERY well including the front motor mount before loading up and heading to Indiana for the weekend 4wheeling!

 

[prose]

After shredding the 2nd belt,the guys at my dealership examined the ranger a little more closely & low & behold I was told that there was a broken motor mount- (thanks guys for the pics of the broken mount,as I printed it off along with other info from this site, & gave it to the dealer when I dropped off the ranger for the 2nd time)..........was on hardcore-sledder.com & got some info regarding the mount issue........All ranger 700xp's manufactured after March 6/07 have the "new" mount, previous to that date they have the original mount........the new mount part # 3021936, whic matches the work order in the above post.........old mount # 3110044.......which is the # on the polaris website under the online parts catalogue.........you would think Polaris would've updated their web info by now.........cheers.........[]

 

[Curmudgeon]

Don't give up on Polaris, all the manufactures do the same dang thing. You own one of the best machines out there.

 

[BAWB]

We really put this thing to the test this weekend and 0 problems!!!! I think I have faith in this awesome machine again.

Finally managed to get it stuck one time but thats just because we were going too slow. I'll start a new thread with pics!