I have a QSC kit, $209 and tailored to how your machine is setup and how YOU ride. Got it from Ryan @ RVSPerformance. He knows his stuff!!!........EPI, DDP, Dalton, QSC, etc. all pretty much do the same thing, with the sportsman ATV's we found QSC to provide the biggest real world performance gains so that's what I chose for the Ranger. Go over to the PolarisATVForums website and ask what guys are running over there with their big mud tires, 90% are turning QSC sorting in their clutches
What clutch for 32 terms???
Hey guys I have a 2014 ranger 900 with super atv 6 inch lift and 29.5 and want to go to 32 inch terms. What brand, style and cost about do they run. Thanks
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Cool thanks buddy I'll look into QSC
What kind of riding do you do mostly?
I would say the Duraclutch system not a clutch kit because regardless of what clutch kit or any other primary clutch you might buy trying to get those big tires moving in the muck you are going to be subject to burning a belt where as with the duraclutch system you will not burn a belt due to the way it is made and how it works. Click the link below, read tech article and watch the videoHey guys I have a 2014 ranger 900 with super atv 6 inch lift and 29.5 and want to go to 32 inch terms. What brand, style and cost about do they run. Thanks
http://www.hunterworks.com/duraclutches_
Todd
^Of course you would, you sell the DuraClutch. And that statement is NOT true at all.
A clutch kit (any clutch kit) will give you the power back that you lost by installing large mud tires, and almost all of them improve belt grab to prevent slipping belts. The mechanical advantage a simple clutch kit gives you over stock is amazing, you get your low end power back and it allows your machine to turn heavy tires easier. Like I said before, ALOT of the hardcore mudding guys are running giant mud tires thru peanut butter with clutch kits and DONT burn belts. Ever. No need to spend $1200 on whole clutch system. Thats 13 BELTS!!!
A clutch kit (any clutch kit) will give you the power back that you lost by installing large mud tires, and almost all of them improve belt grab to prevent slipping belts. The mechanical advantage a simple clutch kit gives you over stock is amazing, you get your low end power back and it allows your machine to turn heavy tires easier. Like I said before, ALOT of the hardcore mudding guys are running giant mud tires thru peanut butter with clutch kits and DONT burn belts. Ever. No need to spend $1200 on whole clutch system. Thats 13 BELTS!!!
I'm always riding mud and water. I emailed qsc and asked them what they can do fo my ranger on the 32s and sportsman on 27s they both get riden in tha same nasty mucky mud and water and told them that and they replied " $209 for a fixed weight kit that works really good or $720 for complete primary works excellent for your set up. Includes adjustable weights and a secondary spring. It's already assembled and pre set. " Is it worth the 500 bucks more a kit or buy 2 at $209 and it will be a noticble improment where I'll be fine"
I have the QSC Primary and QSC sorting. I would recommend that u save the money and get just the fixed weight kit. You wont be disappointed. Biggest gains were from the kit, email Ryan and he will tell you the same thing...no need to replace the primary unless you want something Heavy Duty or your primary is shot. The Biggest gains for the replacement primary's were found on the 800 machines.
I would say the Duraclutch system not a clutch kit because regardless of what clutch kit or any other primary clutch you might buy trying to get those big tires moving in the muck you are going to be subject to burning a belt where as with the duraclutch system you will not burn a belt due to the way it is made and how it works. Click the link below, read tech article and watch the video
http://www.hunterworks.com/duraclutches_
Todd
And isn't a duraclutch made for stock tires? Or at least only tailored for up to 28"? Don't think the duraclutch is the way to go, just helps a stock machine not one that has been modded and has big mud tires... JMO. I like QSC also
Have 30 inch tires. Installed a Duraclutch last weekend. Best ugrade ever in my opinion.
You must not know anything about me or Hunterworks, we are not in the business of just selling stuff. BTW, we have clutch kits, the same HD primaries. and EBS style secondary clutches as DDP and I make way more money on selling that. This works, only people say they are not the best is someone who does not have one.^Of course you would, you sell the DuraClutch. And that statement is NOT true at all.
A clutch kit (any clutch kit) will give you the power back that you lost by installing large mud tires, and almost all of them improve belt grab to prevent slipping belts. The mechanical advantage a simple clutch kit gives you over stock is amazing, you get your low end power back and it allows your machine to turn heavy tires easier. Like I said before, ALOT of the hardcore mudding guys are running giant mud tires thru peanut butter with clutch kits and DONT burn belts. Ever. No need to spend $1200 on whole clutch system. Thats 13 BELTS!!!
Not true, that bad information is my fault I was the one that said up to 28" tires, that is not the case though.And isn't a duraclutch made for stock tires? Or at least only tailored for up to 28"? Don't think the duraclutch is the way to go, just helps a stock machine not one that has been modded and has big mud tires... JMO. I like QSC also
See, big tires and he has one, he loves it.Have 30 inch tires. Installed a Duraclutch last weekend. Best ugrade ever in my opinion.
I think you may have got some bad information...I have 20+" of ground clearance with 29.5" terms, stacked lifts, and the Duraclutch...
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See again, heavily modded, has a duraclutch and loves it. How much proof do you guys need?
Sorry but just don't see how the Duraclutch helps for larger tires besides belt life. There has to be a ton of power lost down low unless you can change the sorting if its a "one size fits all" kit. Clutch kits have the ability to change the engagement RPM so the engine is more in its powerband when things need to start moving and helps it shift out faster to keep it in its power band, gives the machine a great mechanical advantage. That's why when guys install clutch kits the first thing they notice is how much faster their machines are off the line and in the midrange.
Sometimes its great to have a open mind in life , I was raised Baptist Christian , and I as I went through life I worked at several different jobs and interacted with many French Canadians I worked with who were catholic , I didn't know a thing about Catholics but learned about it some by working with the French. I also worked with Jehovah witnesses... and heard a lot about their religion...but neither from what I could discern were the word of God which the Baptist word I was taught was. But I always figured learning was a good thing and being open minded also. I never told a Catholic or a Jehovah they were going to hell. Or I bought a 800 and after riding 10 miles my ass was so cooked it was smoking...my mistake...BUT I don't tell anyone here with a 800 your machine sucks...because mine didn't, I loved it...except the cooking thing. I know bringing up religion is a NO NO....but thought that analogy might work when it comes to keeping an open mind in life....my way certainly isn't always the right way... life is a journey...live and learn.
Sorry but just don't see how the Duraclutch helps for larger tires besides belt life. There has to be a ton of power lost down low unless you can change the sorting if its a "one size fits all" kit. Clutch kits have the ability to change the engagement RPM so the engine is more in its powerband when things need to start moving and helps it shift out faster to keep it in its power band, gives the machine a great mechanical advantage. That's why when guys install clutch kits the first thing they notice is how much faster their machines are off the line and in the midrange.
Please help us understand how you have developed your opinion about clutches and why you give the advise you give...
What is your experience with a Duraclutch?
What is your experience with any clutch like a Duraclutch?
What is your experience with anything other than QSC?
It is good to hear you are happy with the QSC, and I'm sure many others will benefit from your testament, however, your bashing of other clutch options isn't helping the guys who are looking for information..in fact, a lot of what you're saying is laughable and simply not the case...
There is a lot of ways to skin a cat, and there is rarely a 'best' choice, only what works best for someone...and that is expressly true with clutching...you can't offer sound advice on clutching a machine unless you know how it will be driven (speed, terrain, payload, etc...) so coming out of the gate stating that your setup is the best choice is beyond comical...
Just because you don't 'see' it or understand it doesn't mean it doesn't work...Sorry but just don't see how the Duraclutch helps for larger tires besides belt life.
Obviously you know just enough about clutching to confuse yourself...... There has to be a ton of power lost down low unless you can change the sorting if its a "one size fits all" kit.
I'll say it again....you know just enough about clutching to confuse yourself...Clutch kits have the ability to change the engagement RPM so the engine is more in its powerband when things need to start moving and helps it shift out faster to keep it in its power band, gives the machine a great mechanical advantage.
I'll say it again...you know just enough about clutching to confuse yourself...That's why when guys install clutch kits the first thing they notice is how much faster their machines are off the line and in the midrange.
bottom line is if you think a $209 set of weights/spring for the primary is even in the same ball park in performance/improvement as a setup like the Duraclutch then you truly are confused...
you get what you pay for...
If you want to spend $200 for a different primary spring/weights, great.... that will deliver an improvement...the spring/weights can be tailored to your taste
If you want more improvement, spend the money on a better secondary, the stock one is junk...the spring/helix can be tailored to your taste (I happened to like the DDP setup but I'm sure there are many others that perform well...)
If you want a work horse clutch get something like the Duraclutch...
Stainless, if one doesn't have a open mind he can't learn very much :fat: :fat::fat: . I found out about the Duraclutch here on PRC and it is best widget I have found for my 900. I am sure there other widgets out there that perform well too. It is kind of like the Ford, Chevy, Dodge thing. Not everyone likes the same thing. I looked at the other clutches out there for some time and I had an open mind about the Duraclutch and I have to say I am very impressed with the people at SVi that were very knowledgeably about their product and the design of the clutch. No center bearing to go kaput and the belt under constant tension sold me along with all the features it was advertised to do. I would bet money at some point we will see the Duraclutch a OEM feature on future Polaris products like the Rangers and RZR's. It may be offered as a option and if I were to buy another Ranger with that option I would pay the extra cost for it over the present OEM clutch. With the design of the Duraclutch I expect a good service live out it and the belts. On my 2009 Ranger XP I went through two Primarys in 600 hours due to that center bearing failure. That plus the belts and I could have bought the Duraclutch had it been available at the time.
tjm, are you kidding me. I have tested all the major brands of clutches on our sportsmans, the QSC gave the best gains overall for most machines. EPI and Dalton are good too, can't really go wrong with any of them.
The duraclutch is similar to yamaha's and I've had several grizzly's apart changing out the f'in clutch packs. PITA. Big tires and mud kill those clutch packs, more expensive than a belt. Good thing there is supposedly a 5k warranty on the dura packs. Guys without the big tires have nothing to worry about but I have seen how the grizzly's get tore up with big tires, this concept we are discussing is the same.
You seriously don't think that A clutch kit changes the engagement RPM and "shift" patterns!!!!???!!! THAT IS WHAT A CLUTCH KIT DOES!!! What do you think it does? LOL wow. I've messed around with clutches ALOT. I could go into this with you even more but since YOU clearly don't know what your talking about I'm not going even going to bother and save you the embarrassment. The only thing I'm "confused" about is your reply quoting me on everything since all my points are valid LOL nice try though buddy. I'm sure the DuraClutch is a great product and I will agree for pure workhorse the DuraClutch will not be beat....But there are better products out there for certain applications and in the OP's case I believe that a simple clutch kit is the best solution for him.
And I know all about the secondary, trust me I've been playing around with this thing since day one. It's as good as garbage.
EDIT: And FWIW I don't even have ANY qsc sorting in my ranger at the moment I'm testing an EPI setup. Sheesh.
The duraclutch is similar to yamaha's and I've had several grizzly's apart changing out the f'in clutch packs. PITA. Big tires and mud kill those clutch packs, more expensive than a belt. Good thing there is supposedly a 5k warranty on the dura packs. Guys without the big tires have nothing to worry about but I have seen how the grizzly's get tore up with big tires, this concept we are discussing is the same.
You seriously don't think that A clutch kit changes the engagement RPM and "shift" patterns!!!!???!!! THAT IS WHAT A CLUTCH KIT DOES!!! What do you think it does? LOL wow. I've messed around with clutches ALOT. I could go into this with you even more but since YOU clearly don't know what your talking about I'm not going even going to bother and save you the embarrassment. The only thing I'm "confused" about is your reply quoting me on everything since all my points are valid LOL nice try though buddy. I'm sure the DuraClutch is a great product and I will agree for pure workhorse the DuraClutch will not be beat....But there are better products out there for certain applications and in the OP's case I believe that a simple clutch kit is the best solution for him.
And I know all about the secondary, trust me I've been playing around with this thing since day one. It's as good as garbage.
EDIT: And FWIW I don't even have ANY qsc sorting in my ranger at the moment I'm testing an EPI setup. Sheesh.
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